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by Susanne Pacher
Thursday, January 27, 2005
I had an opportunity to meet Karla last year on one of my
trips to Spain. My interview preview will give you a bit of background
on our meeting. Karla is a fascinating individual, a painter,
writer and overall creative person, but also an entrepreneur
with a bit of an alternative flair. Here is what she has to say
about her experience as a North American expatriate living in
Spain.
1. Tell us a bit about your background. Where did you grow
up, what is your educational background and what did you do before
you moved to Spain?
I was born in Toronto and raised in a small provincial town
called Bowmanville just east of Toronto. I moved back
to Toronto after high school and attended Humber College in Rexdale
where I studied creative arts like fashion design, photography
and writing. After college, I opened my first enterprise
a boutique in Torontos trendy Queen St. area that
sold weird and wonderful wearable art objects.
I sold that business in 1983 and went to the University of
Waterloo where I received an honours degree in Fine Arts. I graduated
in 1990 and started my second enterprise called
Zona Communications. It was a communications company and
I jumped into the internet with both feet. I went on to build
my first Internet enterprise which I sold to a California
company in 2000. I lived in sunny southern California after the
sale of my enterprise until the New York World Trade Centre
tragedy September 2001.
I packed up everything and went back to Bowmanville. Then
10 days later I packed some items and flew to Zurich,
Switzerland and married my long-time Spanish boyfriend
who had been working in Zurich for 8 years. We packed up his
apartment and by December 2001 Christmas
we moved to Spain.
2. You now live on the Costa Blanca in Spain. How long have
you lived there and what made you move there?
We have been here since December 2001. We didnt know
where we were going to live so the first logical place
to go was to where Jose, my husband was born Xativa. This
is a castled city in the interior of the province of Valencia.
We lived there for 6 months. We were unemployed and free to travel
around Spain as it was our honeymoon. We bought a 4x4
and traveled up mountains and down into valleys and places that
no tourist would ever think of going.
However, we really wanted to move out to the coast
to the sea. We had met in a fishing / holiday village called
Javea back in 1988 when I was a University student.
I came to Spain twice on student loans to study
art at the Prado in Madrid. Then, I would head out to the coast
to party and hit the beaches.
My Spanish sweetie was a waiter in a fine little restaurant
called El Solomilllo right on the beach. We fell
into a crazy kind of love and spent two wild summers together.
We kept in touch for the next years though a friend until
the Internet was developed.
When we came to visit Javea from Xativa we found an old friend,
Carmelo. He gave my husband a job and we moved over to the coast.
We now make Benitachell our home which is only five minutes
from Javea.
3. What is it like to live in Spain? What are the main cultural
differences between living in North America and living in Spain?
What was the adjustment phase like initially when you moved there?
Spain is an old culture, full of raw passion, tragedy, love
and a fascination with the macabre. It takes some time to get
used to the intimate nature of the people. They are a nation
of huggers and kissers. In North American culture where a handshake
is normal to greet people, here in Spain it is a hug and a kiss
on both cheeks. This is standard for men and women. No one ever
thinks that you are gay because you are kissing a member of the
same sex. This is a silly notion.
Spain is a noisy country. They have a great love of fireworks.
Motorcycles do not have mufflers and they roar like big beasts
through the streets. People dont talk to each other
they yell. A North American would think that fight is taking
place in a bar when the Spanish get going. But they are not fighting,
this is normal communications.
Spain is a dangerous country. Every criminal who flees persecution
in their own country comes to Spain. Every type of mob is here,
Russians, Romanians, Italians, Yugoslavians
Plus every
killer soldier left over from some Central European war. Terrorism
has been a common scenario in Spain thanks to the Basque separatist
movement (which learned everything they know from Canadas
FLQ). Every week, an unknown body will show up dead in a ditch
due to some Columbian drug payment that didnt get paid.
Drinking and Driving in Spain is normal. Death is cheap on
the motorways. Every weekend families say goodbye to loved ones
as the jaws of death scrape the mangled bodies of young and old
from a twisted up piece of metal that used to be a car. Beer
is not considered a dangerous drink, yet it has a 5% alcohol
content. If you do need to get one you can go through the Drive-Thru
window at your nearest McDonalds. Both wine and spirits are very
cheap in Spain so it is an alcoholics dream come
true.
Smoking is not prohibited and cigarettes are very cheap. Everyone
here starts smoking at a very young age. The women stay nice
and thin as they dont eat, they just smoke. Everyone has
black circles under their eyes. The mix of the cheap brandy and
cheap cigarettes creates for very smelly people.
4. You have now spent several years living in Spain. What
places have you seen? What festivals have you experienced? What
gastronomic pleasures have you enjoyed?
Our favourite festival is the Fallas Festival in Valencia.
We look forward to the first two weeks of March with such passion.
It is the most amazing festival both visually and emotionally.
The combination of art and fire, noise and danger it all
comes together in this festival.
We have so many favourite foods like paella and sausages
packed with pork and mountain grown herb. We love flan and rice
puddings. We love all types of seafood and fresh veggies from
the market.
5. You are always involved in a variety of endeavours. Tell
us about the various websites you are working on.
My husband and I try and keep all of our important information
on our own website http://www.darocas.com/ - this is where
I keep track of my paintings too. Then, I have another website
called http://www.spainlifestyle.com/ where I store my writings
and poems and photos of the renovations on our house. Then, we
have another site called http://www.spainphotos.net/ where we
store our Spanish adventure photos.
6. In addition to web sites, you also participate in several
business organizations. What are they and what is your role?
http://www.palomera.com/ is a website that seeks out and tracks
what the Spanish business community is doing and we can watch
business trends.
Last year, I started a business club for women which
has grown and we are actually hosting International Womens
Day. It just goes to show the power of women to make something
out of nothing. This is a club of international women who have
come to live on this coast. The website is http://www.wibc-spain.com/
7. Obviously both you and your husband have a strong entrepreneurial
orientation. You are now also involved in a project that involves
a luxury Canadian cedar log home development in Spain. Tell us
more about that project.
We both love wood homes. The homes in Spain are made from
cement so they tend to be cool in summer, which is good,
but during winter and the stormy season cement homes are damp,
cold and clammy. They are always full of cement dust and if they
dont get enough sun they get moldy.
The Spanish dont have a good understanding of wood home
building but the many of immigrants from England, France, Switzerland,
Germany and so forth love their wood homes. So I hooked up with
some old university friends from Canada who design and build
wood homes in order to be able to offer a Canadian cedar log
home to the Spanish landscape and marketplace. We are currently
working on a project with a Spanish developer to build the first
wooden home community in Spain. That website is called http://www.spainloghomes.com/
8. In addition to your entrepreneurial ventures, you are also
an artist. Tell us a bit about your artistic background and the
creative endeavours you are involved in now.
I love to paint. I had not done it for many years due to being
so involved with the internet industry. When we moved here I
was so happy to get back to my passion and use my skills that
I developed at university. Now, I paint to please myself but
the paintings sell very easily to people buying new villas or
to tourists.
9. Talk to us about the expatriate experience in Spain. Where
do community of foreigners live, how do they interact, what types
of business and activities are they involved in, and how has
that changed the country?
The coastlines of Spain are turning into very international
communities. It reminds me of what California and Florida must
have been like back in the 60s and 70s. Every retired
person from northern Europe is moving to Spain for the sun and
sea.
They are bringing their cultural mix and adding it to the
Spanish culture. The rest of Spain is changing too for
the good and for the bad. There are more social reforms happening
in Spain now for women and for labour and social welfare.
The new government is young and progressive.
The bad side is that the progress is too fast and the natural
beauty and landscape is being filled up with cement houses looking
like low cost housing, but as holiday homes they are fetching
a huge price. This inflation is eating away at the poor in this
country and now young Spanish people are looking at an era where
they will not be able to buy a home.
10. What advice would give to someone else who is considering
moving to Spain?
Dont move to Spain unless you are willing to be
flexible. There is nothing stable about this country and perhaps
there never will be. If you are rich, and can live off a pension
and golf everyday you will be fine. If you think you can move
to Spain and get a job forget it. However, if you are an entrepreneur
and can see the holes in the marketplace and you have the guts
and know-how to fill the hole you will be fine.
Thanks, Karla, for sharing your viewpoints and experiences.
I appreciate your insiders insights into a culture that
has fascinated me for a long time. Good luck with your endeavours
in Spain!
Susanne Pacher is the publisher of a website called Travel
and Transitions (http://www.travelandtransitions.com). Here you
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